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+Very nice! There are some rough spots yes, but this looks exactly as I'd
+hoped it would, and seems close to being ready for merging.
+
+A few observations, in approximate order of priority:
+
+* What's the copyright and license of showdown? Please include that from
+ the original zip file.
+ * Done. Check licences folder
+* What happens if there are concurrent edits? The CGI.pm modification to
+ save an edited wikiwyg part doesn't seem to check if the source file has
+ changed in the meantime, so if the part has moved around, it might
+ replace the wrong part on saving. I've not tested this.
+ * When you click the edit button, the exact same protocol is used for saving.
+ However when you double click to edit, this still is possibly an issue.
+* The stuff you have in destdir now really belongs in basewiki so it's
+ copied over to any destdir.
+ * Done.
+* Personally, I'm not sure if I need double-click to edit a section in my
+ wiki, but I'd love it if the edit form in the cgi could use wikiwyg. Seems
+ like both of these could be independent options. Doable, I'm sure?
+ * Done.
+* It would be good to move as much as possible of the inlined javascript in
+ wikiwyg.tmpl out to a separate .js file to save space in the rendered
+ pages.
+ * Done.
+* Both this plugin and the [[Gallery]] are turning out
+ to need to add a bunch of pages to the basewiki. I wonder what would be a
+ good way to do this, without bloating the basewiki when the plugins arn't
+ used. Perhaps the underlaydir concept needs to be expanded so it's a set
+ of directories, which plugins can add to. Perhaps you should work with
+ arpitjain on this so both plugins can benefit. (The smiley plugin would
+ also benefit from this..)
+ * Done. All plugin files are now stored in a tarball. IkiWiki checks for
+ <plugin name>.tar.gz in the basedir and if the plugin is being used, then
+ it extracts the files to destdir. Currently IkiWiki does not render these
+ files though (my plugin doesn't need them to be rendered). However it wouldn't
+ be too hard to modify it to render them.
+* Is there any way of only loading enough of wikiwyg by default to catch
+ the section double-clicks, and have it load the rest on the fly? I'm
+ thinking about initial page load time when visiting a wikiwyg-using wiki
+ for the first time. I count 230k or so of data that a browser downloads
+ in that case..
+ * Done-ish. I fixed it so that all of the javascript files(except for the main two)
+ are loaded after the content is loaded. It is possible to make is so that
+ the files are only loaded when you double click, however that is *a lot*
+ more work, plus it will slow the load time for wikiwyg. But if you would
+ prefer that the files only load after double clicking, I can do that. Also,
+ I'm working on reducing the file sizes via [Javascript Compression][]. Theoretically,
+ I can get the size down to about 70kb, I'm working out the kinks now.
+
+--[[Joey]]
+
+Oh, by the way, let me know if I forgot to tarball anything. --[[TaylorKillian]]
+
+[Javascript Compression]: http://javascriptcompressor.com/
+
+---
+
+Some more comments, on version 1.6. You seem to be making nice progress.
+
+changes.diff:
+
+* I don't really like the tarball approach. Doesn't feel like the right
+ approach somehow. A list of underlay directories feels to me like a
+ better approach. One reason is that it's more general than a tarball tied
+ to a given plugin. A list of underlay directories could also be used to
+ prefer a translated underlay, and use the english version of untranslated
+ pages, for example.
+ * I don't quite get what you want to do with the underlay directory, it sounds like
+ you have something pretty specific in mind. I can talk to you about that more
+ on IRC later(assuming my internet is working right).
+ * Basically the idea is to change `$config{underlaydir}` to an array..
+ Ok, take a look at the new `add_underlay()` function. You can now just
+ `add_underlay("wikiwyg")` and it'll look in
+ /usr/share/ikiwiki/wikiwyg/ for the files.
+* When is the WIKIWYG variable in misc.tmpl used?
+ * The WIKIWYG variable in misc.tmpl is used for the edit page. I believe that is what
+ you wanted me to do (Check Revision 3840).
+ * Ah, right.
+* Could you move the code that handles saving a page of the page into the
+ plugin? I just added an editcontent hook, which should allow you to do
+ that.
+ * Alright, np.
+* Your patch exports run_hooks, but I don't see the plugin using that.
+ * Yeah, that was from an earlier revision of my plugin, I just forgot to remove that.
+* I don't know about exporting pagetitle. So far, only the inline plugin
+ needs to use that function, I generally only export things after it's
+ clear a lot of plugins will need them.
+ * Just looked through the inline plugin. So if I want to use pagetitle in my code,
+ I have to use the IkiWiki package instead of IkiWiki::Plugin::Wikiwyg? Or would a
+ better approach be to just copy that function into the Wikiwyg plugin?
+ * You can just call `IkiWiki::pagetitle()`.
+ > Note: pagetitle is now exported.
+
+wikiwyg.tar.gz
+
+* Would it be possible to provide a diff between wikiwyg upstream and any
+ modifications you made to its files? I'm not sure which version you used,
+ so I'm seeing changes in diffing that I'm unsure if you made..
+ * <http://ikiwiki.xbaud.com/JavaScript_Diffs.tar.gz>, also emailed them to you
+ in case my internet goes down.
+ * Could you redo that with diff -u plz?
+ * Link is updated
+* If the files aren't modified, would it be better for users to get them
+ from the wikiwgy upstream, instead of including them in the plugin? (If so,
+ they'd go in their own Debian package..)
+ * The files *are* modified, but I doubt it will make a difference. There have
+ been no updates to Wikiwyg since 5/30/07 so I'm pretty sure it's unmaintained
+ now. Showdown is the same case, they haven't changed anything since SoC began.
+ I could separate them diff's though if you feel it is worth it.
+ * Well, from a packaging perspective, the question is whether some
+ other package might want to use the wikiwyg/showdown javascript
+ files. And whether your mods might break that. If the answers to
+ these questions are yes and no, then it would make sense to package
+ them as standalone packages rather than embedding them in ikiwiki.
+
+misc:
+
+* What are your thoughts on handling plugins? Just make preview do a
+ server-side callback?
+ * That is an option, however I was trying to avoid that due to bandwidth, cpu time
+ concerns (Two reasons I really like IkiWiki). I was planning on just manually
+ implementing some of the easier ones (such as img), however I'm still trying to
+ think of a way for the more complex ones.
+ * It just seems like it would never be able to support everything,
+ and would mean reimplementing stuff in javscript and would constantly
+ need to be kept up to date. Ikiwiki's preview is actually pretty
+ fast, the only real overhead being the cgi call.
+* How do I configure it to only support whole-page editing with wikiwyg and
+ not insert the javascript into html pages?
+ * There currently is no option to do that, however it is a 2 line change that I'll work
+ on after I finish typing this.
+* When editing a whole page with wikiwyg, I think it would be good to keep
+ the save, preview, cancel buttons at the bottom like they are in a
+ regular page edit. Also the comments box. Kind of a least suprise thing, so that enabling
+ wikiwyg for whole-page editing basically just changes how the edit box
+ behaves and keeps the rest of the behavior the same. And I think the preview
+ button should show a preview rendered server-side, like with a regular edit,
+ since such a preview is able to support all plugins.
+ * That's probably a good idea ;)
+
+Everything else looks fine and ready for merging. If, that is, you think
+I should include the plugin with all of its java code in ikiwiki. Thoughts?
+
+--[[Joey]]
+
+I'll start working on the changes... Let me know if you find anything else
+that needs to be changed. I'd be honored to have my code merged with IkiWiki :)
+
+--[[TaylorKillian]]
+
+I wonder if you've had a chance to make any of the remaining changes above?
+Even just some of the smaller changes would be much easier for you to
+do than for me, and it would be nice to get them sorted out before I
+merge it into ikiwiki. --[[Joey]
+
+None of the links for the WYSIWYG editor work anymore. Does anyone have an up to date link?
+Thanks, [[Greg]]
+
+> There's a branch in [[git]] for the wikiwyg stuff, which includes
+> the latest version I sucked in from TaylorKillian's svn repository before
+> it went offline. Disapponted that nothing seems to be moving here.
+> --[[Joey]]
+
+>> How far from ready did this seem to be at that point? I find it a bit unclear
+>> in the above discussion what was completed and what remained. Also, to recover the
+>> wikiwyg-specific stuff from git, it looks like I'd need to ask git for
+>> a diff between the wikiwyg branch and its branch point; is there a nice way to do
+>> that with gitweb, or would I need to install a full-fledged git client? --Chapman Flack
+
+>>> I think that the largest missing thing was support for using ikiwiki
+>>> to render page previews.
+>>>
+>>> Erm.. I seem to have screwed up the creation or pushing out of the
+>>> wikiwyg branch. It doesn't seem to have any of the wikiwyg changes in
+>>> it, and at this point, I don't know where to find them anymore! Damn,
+>>> damn, damn. I suspect I did that right when I was learning git, and
+>>> screwed up pushing the branch. :-( --[[Joey]]
+>>>> Seems the new place is now at Github: <https://github.com/audreyt/wikiwyg-js>
+>>>> FYI
+>>>> --[[users/Olea]]